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Thread: First Person Prototype (that I made)

  1. #1
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    First Person Prototype (that I made)

    I'm not gonna say too much about this. It's playable in-browser, so give it a go and let me know what you think.

    > TEST YOUR MIGHT <

  2. #2
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    10/10 no notes


  3. #3
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Whoa, a midlevel laptop with Intel integrated graphics isn't going to be able to play this well because the performance isn't quite there. I should have expected it; it has a problem chugging most non-ancient 3D games, but I thought if it's browser based it'd be better.

    Anyway, I'll try it again with my gaming laptop later when I get a chance. Otherwise it basically did what it said on the tin, although it might have been good to get a heads up that I'm holding down the mouse button to interact and not just one-clicking a thing. But that just took a second or two to figure out, so it's not a big deal.

  4. #4
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    Whoa, a midlevel laptop with Intel integrated graphics isn't going to be able to play this well because the performance isn't quite there.
    Oof. My graphics card is ancient, but at least it is a graphics card. Maybe if there was an option to turn off shadows?

  5. #5
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    I didn't finish it, but I liked what I played. Everything seems functional, and running around and slapping and throwing stuff felt fun. I'm especially a fan of the mantling because of the incredibly constipated 'hnnng' when he hoists himself up. I feel like dense, multi-layered exploration with verticality would work quite well here. A few small things: I think sometimes mantling needed me to hold RMB once I'm on a ledge a little longer than I'm used to (he falls off otherwise), and the door opening mechanic from Amnesia could use maybe a little more speed, since it feels like you're pushing a really heavy door (also a handy graphic explaining mouse motion for opening the door wouldn't hurt, but that's a usability thing for a full game, not a prototype).

    Overall, I had fun!

  6. #6
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    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    I played it on my work laptop, which has a Core i7-1265U and Iris Xe (?) graphics, and it ran smoothly in Firefox. I had fun! Especially slapping. Mantling works well but I agree with Sulphur that the hold time should be much less, maybe even instantaneous. I think the hold times for grabbing and throwing should be reduced as well. Basically the slapping is the perfect level of quick feedback and I wish the rest of the motions matched it.

  7. #7
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    If we're going to dig into it... Based on my experience with Mirror's Edge, I think mantling would be better if it didn't even require a button press. If you're in the right place and looking/traveling in something remotely resembling the right direction, just have it happen.

    The doors are neat but could use a little work, especially when pulling them. Just have the character back out of the way automatically if the player is pulling the door against the character. On the other hand, this is the one place where the hold-button-to-hold works well.

    Otherwise, the button-holds aren't great. Right-click to grab instead of having to hold it the whole time would be fine, IMO. Do you need to charge the throw? Seems extraneous.

    I would really appreciate some indicator, maybe a difference in hand posture, that indicates whether you're in range to slap/grab at any given moment.

  8. #8
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    Registered: Dec 2001
    Location: Marlboro, MA, USA
    Reminds me of Human Fall Flat!
    The Keep for Thief 1 and 2 FMs, Shadowdark for Thief 3 and Dark Mod FMs

  9. #9
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    I don't think that's a coincidence. Henke is a known HFF junkie if ever I saw one!

  10. #10
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Thanks for playing, everyone!

    Yes, there might be a bit of HFF inspiration there, but original inspiration for this was all of our favourite imm sim... Thief 2014. I was replaying it last year and again marveling at all the hands-on interactions. I love the way they look, tho they do slow the game down as you have to wait for the lil animation to play before continuing. Around the same time I played Dying Light 2, where when you pick up an object your character just waves his hand in front of him and the object disappears. This keeps the gameplay smooth but looks yanky. And I started wondering about how no one has really cracked this nut yet. Could you have your character actually visibly pick up objects in the world AND at the same time not slow the game down while waiting for the animation? YES, I decided. You just gotta make it cartoony as hell! Give your character long stretchy arms which reach out and pick up a box while you're still free to move! After a while I started adding in other interactions like door-opening and mantling, and I did stray from my original intent here by having the character pause in place while these are performed. I started this project last summer, under the project name "Cartoon Imm Sim" and dabbled with it from time to time. Never really finding a proper game idea for it. Owl2's Thief framework inspired me to finally get back to it and just make a fun lil thing to mess around in. While doing so I stumbled across an ending for it. Yes btw, this thing does have an ending, which I know some people have missed. It's not over until you've seen the credits roll.

  11. #11
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    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: the Sheeple Pen
    I played it too!

    There's definitely a lot of potential there. Hopefully you'll be able to turn this into a proper game in the future.

    By the way, for some reason I couldn't put the purple key cube into the keyhole thingy at all. It just didn't go in like the other cubes did.

  12. #12
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomi View Post
    By the way, for some reason I couldn't put the purple key cube into the keyhole thingy at all. It just didn't go in like the other cubes did.
    Each slot is guarded by a transparent, barely visible plate. It only opens after you put in the previous cube. So, they have to go in, in order.

  13. #13
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    My purple cube didn't go in either, but then I stood back and chucked it in, and that worked.

  14. #14
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Those are some interesting techniques everyone is using to put their purple thingummy in the hoochamacalllit.

  15. #15
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    lol

    The purple cube definitely should just go in, there's nothing special about that lock. Just looked it over in Unity, looks normal. Not sure what might be causing this issue.

  16. #16
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    Sulphur, there are times when I suspect that you escaped from an old Carry On film.

  17. #17
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    Registered: Oct 2023

    great

    it's a fun game. the movements are very smooth. Unfortunately I couldn't complete the task

    Last edited by orborneee; 13th Nov 2023 at 05:11.

  18. #18
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2004
    I got to this thread too late and all the useful stuff that needed to be said was said. I got as far as getting 3 cubes in and couldn't find the 4th (I think purple?) so I guess my feedback is to add BIG FAT QUEST ARROWS FOR DUMB DUMB "skill issue" LOSERS LIKE ME

    That and the slapping, with the sound and the little slap icon, is too fun not to have a lot more hilarious uses for it. At minimum you need to have an NPC you can repeatedly slap in the face who very quaintly tells you to stop it, like a goddamn Bethesda NPC.

    Also chickens. Chickens you slap and then get attacked by a million chickens

  19. #19
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Quote Originally Posted by Thirith View Post
    Sulphur, there are times when I suspect that you escaped from an old Carry On film.
    Just channelling my inner Kenneth Williams. Or is that my outer Kenneth Williams?


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