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Thread: The Black Parade Mission 6: Kept Away From View

  1. #76
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    Registered: Jan 2024
    Atropos, your hint about getting to that secret room was very helpful. And sorry, it's my bad, I was not clear what statues I meant. I could not figure out how to activate statues in the library for a long time.

  2. #77
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: UK
    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    There are 2 ways.

    1: Use a crate on one of the statue and jump from there to the balcony.
    2: Go to the reliquary, stand on the south side of the room and look up.
    I think I missed this room, having mistakenly thought it was just in the North tower.
    I can't see anything, trying the second hint in the reliquary, I'm in the room with the mask that follows you.
    Can you tell me exactly where I should be looking? I can't use the first hint because I don't like crating and can't find one anywhere near that location.
    Last edited by Ramirez; 18th Feb 2024 at 13:31. Reason: Forgot a word!

  3. #78
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    Registered: Dec 2004
    Location: Germany
    Ramirez, first go to the wooden stairs leading to the reliquary. These are marked on the map. Then, climb them up to the top. Enter the room beyond, and you should emerge high up in a tower. There should be two statues on this level. Walk to the southeast one, then towards the large bookcase that is to the left of the statue (if you share the point of view of the statue).

    Place your back (oh, okay, Hume's back) at the bookcase, then look up. You should see a wooden beam between you and the statue, and near the place where the beam ends at the rim of the walkway, you might (depending on where exactly you stand) see something glow. Take a rope arrow and climb up so you can reach this - it's a glyph. Using/activating it does open a secret door in the bookcase below. Climb down before it closes again and go through.
    You should now reach the balcony without problems. If you want to go back, look for a second glyph on a wall close to the secret door. It's not hidden, so you should easily find it. Don't forget to get your rope arrow back!

  4. #79
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: UK
    Thanks baeuchlein!
    I was going into the actual reliquary and standing at the South wall so of course I didn't see anything.
    Gotta say this was one of those find the switch puzzles I'm not a fan of, but fortunately, nothing mission critical is related to it. Come to think of it, the payoff should have been bigger imo.
    However, I appreciate these little secrets are hard to get right without making them obvious so it doesn't detract from my opinion of the mission.
    This is still an all time favourite campaign for me, still plugging away at it a few hours a week

  5. #80
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: In my Pagan Hut
    Really loved this mission, was cool to visit other locations seen only briefly in cutscenes. The voice acting was also top notch and gave a lot of personality to the Keepers.

    Also spent a good hour seeing how many people I could get Gamall to kill. A morbid sport, but a fun one.

    If I had one complaint about this mission, and The Black Parade in general, it's that there's so. Much. Tile!

    I like a bit of tile to up the challenge here and there, but it's really everywhere in these missions and makes getting around awfully tedious. It's not hard to stay silent on tile if you move at a snail's pace, but I'd like to be able to walk freely without worrying about someone in the next country hearing me before I even know they're there. I decided to casually ghost this mission (because a chance to out-stealth the Keepers is hard to pass up), but the tile made it a bit of a drag. I'd like to ghost the whole set of missions at some point, but the frustration is putting me off a bit.

  6. #81
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2005
    Location: BC, Canada
    100% Ghost, 4 hours 39 min but only found 2998 of 3145 loot, so the quest continues! I really do love how things are in line with what we've seen of keeper structures from T2 and T3.

    100% LOOT! Finding the rest was actually pretty quick except for a hidden place to the right when going up the stairs outside. I was checking the left on the first pass and then didn't return there for a long time. Thank goodness for the knife that caught my eye on the right. In Game timer was 5 hours 59 min but actual mission time with the running around & reloading is probably closer to 11 hours total
    Last edited by Marmbo; 10th Jun 2024 at 20:53. Reason: 100% Loot Mission 6, onto mission 7 now

  7. #82
    So. . .I may have done a very stupid thing. .

    I didn't follow the guy at the start of the mission, figuring it would be like in "Assassins" in Thief1, where you get mission failure if you let the guys out of your site. Since that didn't happen here, I thought "Oh, cool, I'll just explore the city first, and I'll eventually come across the Keeper compound entrance!"

    But now I've scoured everywhere I can think to look, and I haven't found the entrance. I started to wonder if maybe if the creators set it up so that it's impossible to find unless you let the guy at the start of the mission lead you to it. Is that the case? Am I gonna have to completely restart the mission?? You guys wouldn't be that cruel, would you?

    EDIT: Ah, nevermind! I found it deep in the depths of that Hammerite factory. I guess I hadn't checked everywhere. .

    However, I did find Garrett's apartment. Er, I think. That was supposed to be his, wasn't it?
    Last edited by Lady Taffer; 23rd Jun 2024 at 00:48.

  8. #83
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: montreal
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Taffer View Post
    So. . .I may have done a very stupid thing. .

    I didn't follow the guy at the start of the mission, figuring it would be like in "Assassins" in Thief1, where you get mission failure if you let the guys out of your site. Since that didn't happen here, I thought "Oh, cool, I'll just explore the city first, and I'll eventually come across the Keeper compound entrance!"

    But now I've scoured everywhere I can think to look, and I haven't found the entrance. I started to wonder if maybe if the creators set it up so that it's impossible to find unless you let the guy at the start of the mission lead you to it. Is that the case? Am I gonna have to completely restart the mission?? You guys wouldn't be that cruel, would you?

    EDIT: Ah, nevermind! I found it deep in the depths of that Hammerite factory. I guess I hadn't checked everywhere. .

    However, I did find Garrett's apartment. Er, I think. That was supposed to be his, wasn't it?

    Can I get that hint ? can'T find it either ...
    I may be blind But I found my way

  9. #84
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2004
    Location: Germany
    Head down to the water in the Hammerite compound, then have a thorough look around without the need to take a bath. Something should become visible that only the Keepers use.

  10. #85
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: montreal
    Quote Originally Posted by baeuchlein View Post
    Head down to the water in the Hammerite compound, then have a thorough look around without the need to take a bath. Something should become visible that only the Keepers use.
    Thank you very much !

    I had missed a part of the compound

  11. #86
    New Member
    Registered: Jun 2025
    Hello. Forget it if it's too much of a request, but is there a higher resolution version of the City map from the map room? I can't make out the names of smaller districts.

  12. #87
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2004
    Location: Germany
    Look here. It's obviously exactly the same map (look at the icon-like thing near the bottom center) in higher resolution.

  13. #88
    New Member
    Registered: Jun 2025
    That's very nice. Thank you

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