Reply With Quote20 million Democratic votes “disappeared” in 2024.
No, 20 million dem votes did NOT disappear. See the Politifact article. This one's rated "Pants On Fire".
Right. Independent votes rarely, if ever, matter. Independent candidates get less than 1% of popular votes. Jill Stein got 0.5% this time, for example.Originally Posted by mxleader
I'm referring to the other 13-15 million disaffected voters.
20 million Democratic votes “disappeared” in 2024.
No, 20 million dem votes did NOT disappear. See the Politifact article. This one's rated "Pants On Fire".
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It's Christmas already?
No, just Santa CLOWN.
It is for the right, I suppose... Although I'm suspecting that if Donny showed up at a fancy department store in NYC they might shutter the building quickly.
Are you talking about when he went against Biden as that's the number according to one report from then: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/a...2588-counties/?
As that quite clearly makes out, the number of counties doesn't really reflect the number of people involved so whether or not it's the same in 2024 once the counting is finished it's really a meaningless measure.
Looks like it.
How do people still not get it that tariffs are basically a tax on domestic consumers and businesses?
For clarity, this is the final result of the presidential election...
Trump wins 312 electoral votes...which is a landslide victory.
Trump wins all 7 battleground states.
Trump wins the popular vote by over 4.6 million votes.
The Republicans win control of the Senate.
The Republicans win control of the House.Trump won 2,642 out of 3,144 counties (84%) in the United States.
This is 54 more counties for Trump than from the previous 2020 election (2588). Full List of Counties Donald Trump Flipped From Kamala Harris
Good catch.
The 2,588 counties was from the 2020 election. I have updated the post to reflect the +54 counties that were gained by Trump in the 2024 election.
Regarding the number of counties won being a meaningless measure. One could say that the popular vote is meaningless as well, considering that it does not determine the election. However, what is meaningful is the concentration of votes within counties. As seen in recent elections, Democrat candidates tend to win in densely populated urban areas, while Republicans tend to win in more rural and suburban areas. The number of counties won by a candidate can provide insight into broader trends and demographics. For instance, Trump’s 2020 campaign saw significant gains in rural areas and small cities, while Biden’s campaign performed well in suburban and urban areas. The 2024 election saw shifts in voting patterns among certain demographics, including an increase in Republican support among Hispanic voters (36% in 2020, 54% in 2024). This is reflected in the population density within certain counties where Hispanics tend to populate.
Southern California is an example of this, with a high concentration of Hispanics...
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What is meaningful is that Trump and co. are preparing to build a network of privately owned and run concentration camps for millions of people. What could go wrong?
Not only that, he wants to employ the military against people who he insists "aren't really civilians" and increase protections for the police against prosecution for wrongdoing.
Are you referring to for profit prisons that already exist?
You mean like the ones that flourished under the Biden administration? Your selective outrage is noted.
This is industrial scaled so there's a difference but ...
Nah, I protested those too in the US and Japan FWIW.
That was literally part of my day job.
Prisons require due process, like a fair trial, for people to be detained in them.Are you referring to for profit prisons that already exist?
There is no discussion of due process for this.
California is only 63% counted. Hold your horses on any conclusions there.
An interesting story to me is Dearborn, MI. It's majority Muslim and not small, ~100k population. 18% voted for Jill Stein to protest Gaza, and that flipped it for Trump. I wonder if they are proud of their victory.
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I guess the Deep State showed up late and missed it.
Actually, no matter what Trump won by landslide.BobPage to JCDenton :: Just like your lab work, Savage: premature celebration
A lot of discussions on the meaning of the election.
I like this one of the ones I've watched so far.
It's in Deep Crisis, damn Weak Powers!
This article was a good take on the results:
https://newrepublic.com/post/188197/...-landscape-fox
People can't be "bothered" by details that they don't know about, because the eco-system they're in makes sure they don't know about them. That shifts the Overton Window, and when real actual facts do creep in at the sides they sound of place, like someone is trying to trick them.Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won?
It wasn’t the economy. It wasn’t inflation, or anything else. It was how people perceive those things, which points to one overpowering answer.
I’ve had a lot of conversations since Tuesday revolving around the question of why Donald Trump won. The economy and inflation. Kamala Harris didn’t do this or that. Sexism and racism. The border. That trans-inmate ad that ran a jillion times. And so on.
These conversations have usually proceeded along lines where people ask incredulously how a majority of voters could have believed this or that. Weren’t they bothered that Trump is a convicted felon? An adjudicated rapist? Didn’t his invocation of violence against Liz Cheney, or 50 other examples of his disgusting imprecations, obviously disqualify him? And couldn’t they see that Harris, whatever her shortcomings, was a fundamentally smart, honest, well-meaning person who would show basic respect for the Constitution and wouldn’t do anything weird as president?
The answer is obviously no—not enough people were able to see any of those things. At which point people throw up their hands and say, “I give up.”
The liberal venture capital and ad-supported online media all fizzled out because they rely on revenues, and especially with ad capture by Facebook and Google, those revenues dried up in the mid 2010s.Back to the campaign. I asked Gertz what I call my “Ulan Bator question.” If someone moved to America from Ulan Bator, Mongolia in the summer and watched only Fox News, what would that person learn about Kamala Harris? “You would know that she is a very stupid person,” Gertz said. “You’d know that she orchestrated a coup against Joe Biden. That she’s a crazed extremist. And that she very much does not care about you.”
Same Ulan Bator question about Trump? That he’s been “the target of a vicious witch-hunt for years and years,” that he is under constant assault; and most importantly, that he is “doing it all for you.”
The few big right-wing billionaires who funded the right-wing media ecosystem have just kept pouring money into it. That's the difference in how things ended up here.
I haven’t even gotten to the economy, about which there is so much to say. Yes—inflation is real. But the Biden economy has been great in many ways. The U.S. economy, wrote The Economist in mid-October, is “the envy of the world.” But in the right-wing media, the horror stories were relentless. And mainstream economic reporting too often followed that lead. Allow me to make the world’s easiest prediction: After 12:00 noon next January 20, it won’t take Fox News and Fox Business even a full hour to start locating every positive economic indicator they can find and start touting those. Within weeks, the “roaring Trump economy” will be conventional wisdom. (Eventually, as some of the fruits from the long tail of Bidenomics start growing on the vine, Trump may become the beneficiary of some real-world facts as well, taking credit for that which he opposed and regularly denounced.)
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Amer Ghalib—Democratic Muslim Mayor Of Hamtramck, Michigan—Encourages Voters To Back Trump At Rally...
Sent the treasonous, thieving rapist back to the White House so he can rob the country blind, escape consequences for his insurrection and fuck over his supporters.
Idiots come in all stripes.
*** BREAKING NEWS ***
Drumpf has decided to create the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy!...
They're going to take away our beautiful bureaucracy!...
Don't you love efficiency and electric cars?
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