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Thread: Old Reviews and Links About TDP

  1. #1
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    Old Reviews and Links About TDP

    I started browsing the old news posts (footpad days 1999) from the Circle and was amazed at the number of Thief reviews. So I started digging into those links and reviews using the Wayback Machine. Mr. Peabody was very helpful. The reviews were really quite pleasant and fun to read - particularly coming from the perspective of someone who has played TDP many times and played Thief for 20 years. Anyway, I kept a record of these links to post for those of you interested in a little nostalgia. These aren't all of the links either, but they do cover through about March of 1999. If there is interest, I will add a few posts with additional link collections.

    TTLG Front-Side Website: https://web.archive.org/web/19990117...tp://ttlg.com/

    Thief-TheCircle Original Site: https://web.archive.org/web/19990429...com/index.html

    Looking Glass 1998: https://web.archive.org/web/19980209...ark/index.html - Thanks to Reddit User: ttrrraway

    Thief 2 Facts/Rumors: https://web.archive.org/web/19990419...ef2/index.html

    Thief 1 Project Diary: https://web.archive.org/web/19990421...iarymonth.html

    Thief 1 and 2 Mission Credits

    Eidos – Normal Walkthrough: https://web.archive.org/web/20000620...fasttrack.html

    Dromed Goes Public 5-27-1999 1:50 AM EST
    First Thief Loader: 6-08-1999

    Builder’s Academy (Dromed Guides):
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000818...om/teg/guides/

    Dromed Central:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20060710...?subVar=BEGIN1

    Thief 2 Metal Age Fan Site:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000302...-metalage.com/

    Dark Ring (Webring)
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000407.../index.html#dr

    Dromed Tidbits
    https://web.archive.org/web/20010208...ed_tidbits.txt

    Archive.org Collections
    Magazine Article Collection for all Thief Games by Taffer1987

    Links to later compilation posts:
    Early Thief Fan Sites
    Old Thief Reviews Part 2
    Thief 2 Reviews Page

    Old Thief Reviews (Part 1)

    A set of links (to Mr. Peabody’s Way Back Internet Archive Machine) that have long since fallen away. These links are mostly reviews referenced in our very own Circle’s news archive.

    Game Revolution Review:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20020602...tion/thief.htm

    GamerX Awards:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20001010...s98/ss01b.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/20001011...s98/ss15b.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/20001010...s98/ss01c.html

    Adrenaline Vault Review and Awards:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20001119...e=thief&page=1
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000817...ult.com/ava98/

    Computer Games Magazine (CDMag.com)
    Thief 1 Review: https://web.archive.org/web/20020413...ef_review.html
    Thief Tips: https://web.archive.org/web/20010616...hief_tips.html

    Salon Magazine with a look at Thief as Virtual Reality
    https://web.archive.org/web/20010208.../10review.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/20010210...10review2.html

    Monitor Magazine Online (Canada)
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991001.../gamebeat.html

    Gamespot Pages
    Dark Project Review
    Game Guide
    Player Review Index
    1998 Awards
    Gamespot's Top Ten Scariest Monsters

    Great Player Review Quote:
    Orion Kellogg “The ability to manipulate objects, pickpocket unsuspecting guardsmen of their keys or change purses, lean around corners, knock out foes from behind, move bodies, overhear conversations and eat hearty portions of deer meat (yum!) make Thief's world more immersive than any other game I've ever played.”

    Soapbox Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990424...12_13_98.shtml

    Sharky Extreme:
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991014...ps98_a/i.shtml
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991001...glass_thief_r/

    PC Games
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991004...ion_thief.html

    Classy Glasses – VR - Yes, an actual review using Virtual Reality Glasses in 1999
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991001.../wvr_thief.htm

    Voodoo Extreme
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000817...reviews/thief/

    rpg.net
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000818.../rev_1372.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000818.../rev_1359.html

    GA-Source Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991104...e+Dark+Project

    GameFirst Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990422...hief/thief.htm

    Games Overdose Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991103...dv/Thief.shtml

    Game Post Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990429...ews/thief.html

    Gamer Grand Central Reviews
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990420...et.com/t24.htm
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990420...t.com/t24a.htm

    Gibbed Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990922...mes/thief.html

    Unnamed Gaming Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000604...om/thief.shtml

    3DBytes Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991002.../thiefprev.htm

    Game Informer Review - Provided by Reddit User: TC_Support
    Last edited by Iceblade; 16th May 2025 at 23:13.

  2. #2
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    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Southern,California
    ^picture above as soon as i saw it i knew it was cragscleft prison level but someone must have took a agro skeleton from lower arera and ran it up there :P

    that is the room with switch to open a gate to get to factory

  3. #3
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    Registered: Sep 2017
    Location: Ukraine
    Actually there are no haunts on that level. The first one, will be in the next (Bohehoard) level.
    Probably that screen is from some of the pre-release builds.

  4. #4
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    "His fence Cutter"


  5. #5
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    Registered: Jun 2004
    Early Thief Fan Sites
    Thief: the Dark Files by Chuckles:
    http://www.thief-thecircle.com/guides/darkfiles/

    A Day in the Life of …:
    http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanwo.../netscape.html

    Rest of the currently available fanworks:
    http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/novels.asp
    http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/tales/
    http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/poetry/
    http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/art/
    http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/movies/
    http://www.thief-thecircle.com/media/music/

    Shifting Double Thief Short By Tra’Hari Vandaette
    https://web.archive.org/web/20010424...net/~be/thief/

    Jyre’s Abode
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991110...eeserve.co.uk/

    Unreal Conversion of Bafford’s Manor
    https://web.archive.org/web/20010419...al/bafford.htm

    Game’s Domain Walkthrough
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990421...new/index.html
    Same FAQ posted at GameFAQs: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/715...ject/faqs/2443

    Thief The Dark Site
    https://web.archive.org/web/20001005...ex.html#onload

    Ginna’s Domain
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991216...758/index.html

    Thief: The Site Maker
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000619...sitemaker.com/

    Beseen Thief Fan Forum
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991129...droom/t/17043/

    Brian Smith Walkthrough
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000815...rojectwalk.htm

    Lytha’s Website
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991128...p://lytha.com/
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000517...vey/index.html

    German Dark Project Fan Site
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991127....purespace.de/

    TAS: The Master Assassin Fansite
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000511...d66/index.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990830...66/index2.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/20011031...k:80/main.html

    Trimfect’s Thief Project Website:
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990819...ollming/thief/
    https://web.archive.org/web/20010429...nor.com/thief/

    Sarah’s Thief Site
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000118...intropage.html

    Planet Thief
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000612...irtualave.net/

    Thief Fan Fiction Library
    https://web.archive.org/web/20100414...mar/thief-fan/

    German Thief Site
    https://web.archive.org/web/20030324...www.thief2.de/
    Last edited by Iceblade; 12th May 2025 at 18:47.

  6. #6
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    Registered: Jun 2004
    Old Thief Reviews Part 2
    Firing Squad Review:
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991018...m/games/thief/
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991018...hief/page2.asp
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991018...hief/page3.asp
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990821...hief/page4.asp
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991204...hief/page5.asp

    Note: pages 6, 7, report and Final Verdict are corrupted with an auto-advertisement script that makes pages hard to read. Will need to use printscreen to view pages.
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991204...hief/page6.asp
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000407...hief/page7.asp
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000407...ief/report.asp
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000407...ef/verdict.asp

    Computer Games Magazine (CDMag.com):
    Thief Gold Review: Thief Gold Review

    Adrenaline Vault’s Previews of TDP:
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990428...es/e3emil3.asp
    http://www.avault.com/featured/the_d...ject/index.asp

    PlayNOW! Game Reviews:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000125.../Review281.asp

    The Vault Network (later: IGN Vault) Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000815...ws/thief.shtml

    CGW’s Premier Awards 1999
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990508...98/page3.html/

    Game Stats Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000109...ct/default.htm

    Salon 21 Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990902.../10review.html

    3DNow! Review
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991106...iews/thief.htm

    PC Zone Fantasy Action Games SuperTest
    https://archive.org/details/PC_Zone_.../n107/mode/2up

    SIRON Foot’s Review (Hint, Text is whte)
    https://web.archive.org/web/20051031...hief/thief.htm

    Thief 1 Postmortem [lead Programmer Tom Leonard] (Gamasutra / Game Developer Magazine)
    https://web.archive.org/web/19991013...9/thief_01.htm

    3D Game Comparison by Eep (still functioning website)
    http://www.tnlc.com/eep/compare/
    http://www.tnlc.com/eep/compare/table.html
    Last edited by Iceblade; 5th May 2025 at 17:19.

  7. #7
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    Registered: Jun 2004
    Found an interesting little preview of the Thief The Dark Project published by the CD Magazine:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20030418...f_preview.html

    There are photos that survived the Archive.org'ing process and an interesting little slice of preview fiction.

    Garrett drew back his bow, and with a soft "twang" the water arrow was away. It snuffed the torch in the alcove ahead, giving him a pool of shadow to creep through. Between the pillars he could see down to the floor of the factory. The Hammerite worker had his back turned, but he was too far away for a sure shot. Still, everything was going according to plan, when, "Clang!" his foot came down on a metal grate rather than solid stone.

    "Eh? Who goes there!? Show yourself!" the Hammerite cried, looking this way and that to find the source of the sound.

    Silently, Garrett drew back into the shadows and waited, his heart pounding. After a few moments, when his searching proved fruitless, the Hammerite went back to work.

    "Must be my imagination playing tricks on me," Garrett heard him mumble.

    Shot Seven Garrett drew a moss bomb from his pack, and tossed it onto the grate. It blossomed into a footstep-quieting carpet of moss, allowing him to cross the grate silently. Now the Hammerite was almost directly below him—an easy shot. This arrow was significantly more substantial than the water variety, and it buried itself between the shoulder blades of the Hammerite. He cried out in pain but did not die, stumbling towards the bronze alarm gong. One note from that and the area would be thick with guards. Garrett dropped to the floor, drew his short sword and finished the job. The Hammerite was dead.

    The room was quiet. No other Hammerites were near. Garrett stepped up to the machine and pulled a lever, closing the mold. Another lever caused a vat of molten iron to tilt, filling the mold with liquid metal. Garrett looked down at the temperature gauge on the machine, and when the metal had cooled sufficiently, he yanked the first lever again and out dropped a newly minted hammer, symbol of the Hammerites. Garrett hefted it and proceeded with the mission at hand.…
    PS: As you can see in the aforementioned link, Computer Games Magazine (CDMag.com) was a big magazine that kept up with many major games - very regular news. As a result, there are many articles about Thief from those magazine releases stored in the Way-Back Machine.
    Last edited by Iceblade; 5th May 2025 at 16:21.

  8. #8
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    Registered: Jun 2004
    Wow this one is interesting. The French Thief Website from the early 2000s produced maps of the Thief Levels with their game guides:

    Game Guide
    Extra Resources
    Bafford's Map

    Click on Extra Resources link above, then the desired mission under Aides, then Plans des...

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: May 2005
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade View Post
    Found an interesting little preview of the Thief The Dark Project published by the CD Magazine:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20030418...f_preview.html
    When asked whether a level editor would be provided, there was a bit of hemming and hawing. Best guess is that they'll "burn it onto the CD and provide it unsupported." Clearly, the desire to get it into the hands of enthusiasts is there for LoPiccolo. "There's such a depth of expression in areas that other engines haven't touched. Graphically, you know, we're not doing anything that people haven't seen before, really," he says modestly. "But in terms of a lot of the other interactions, how easy it is to do really deep sophisticated things just with the editor, we'd love to see people go nuts with it."
    I bet Greg LoPiccolo did not anticipate people would still go nuts with DromEd 27 years later.

  10. #10
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    Registered: Sep 2014
    89 magazine articles about TDP and Gold from my collection: https://archive.org/details/thief-se..._20220925_1705

  11. #11
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    Registered: Jun 2004
    Thanks Taffer1989!

    I added the link to the collection to the top post.

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