^picture above as soon as i saw it i knew it was cragscleft prison level but someone must have took a agro skeleton from lower arera and ran it up there :P
that is the room with switch to open a gate to get to factory
I started browsing the old news posts (footpad days 1999) from the Circle and was amazed at the number of Thief reviews. So I started digging into those links and reviews using the Wayback Machine. Mr. Peabody was very helpful. The reviews were really quite pleasant and fun to read - particularly coming from the perspective of someone who has played TDP many times and played Thief for 20 years. Anyway, I kept a record of these links to post for those of you interested in a little nostalgia. These aren't all of the links either, but they do cover through about March of 1999. If there is interest, I will add a few posts with additional link collections.
TTLG Front-Side Website: https://web.archive.org/web/19990117...tp://ttlg.com/
Thief-TheCircle Original Site: https://web.archive.org/web/19990429...com/index.html
Looking Glass 1998: https://web.archive.org/web/19980209...ark/index.html - Thanks to Reddit User: ttrrraway
Thief 2 Facts/Rumors: https://web.archive.org/web/19990419...ef2/index.html
Thief 1 Project Diary: https://web.archive.org/web/19990421...iarymonth.html
Thief 1 and 2 Mission Credits
Eidos – Normal Walkthrough: https://web.archive.org/web/20000620...fasttrack.html
Dromed Goes Public 5-27-1999 1:50 AM EST
First Thief Loader: 6-08-1999
Builder’s Academy (Dromed Guides):
https://web.archive.org/web/20000818...om/teg/guides/
Dromed Central:
https://web.archive.org/web/20060710...?subVar=BEGIN1
Thief 2 Metal Age Fan Site:
https://web.archive.org/web/20000302...-metalage.com/
Dark Ring (Webring)
https://web.archive.org/web/20000407.../index.html#dr
Dromed Tidbits
https://web.archive.org/web/20010208...ed_tidbits.txt
Archive.org Collections
Magazine Article Collection for all Thief Games by Taffer1987
Links to later compilation posts:
Early Thief Fan Sites
Old Thief Reviews Part 2
Thief 2 Reviews Page
Old Thief Reviews (Part 1)
A set of links (to Mr. Peabody’s Way Back Internet Archive Machine) that have long since fallen away. These links are mostly reviews referenced in our very own Circle’s news archive.
Game Revolution Review:
https://web.archive.org/web/20020602...tion/thief.htm
GamerX Awards:
https://web.archive.org/web/20001010...s98/ss01b.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20001011...s98/ss15b.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20001010...s98/ss01c.html
Adrenaline Vault Review and Awards:
https://web.archive.org/web/20001119...e=thief&page=1
https://web.archive.org/web/20000817...ult.com/ava98/
Computer Games Magazine (CDMag.com)
Thief 1 Review: https://web.archive.org/web/20020413...ef_review.html
Thief Tips: https://web.archive.org/web/20010616...hief_tips.html
Salon Magazine with a look at Thief as Virtual Reality
https://web.archive.org/web/20010208.../10review.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20010210...10review2.html
Monitor Magazine Online (Canada)
https://web.archive.org/web/19991001.../gamebeat.html
Gamespot Pages
Dark Project Review
Game Guide
Player Review Index
1998 Awards
Gamespot's Top Ten Scariest Monsters
Great Player Review Quote:
Orion Kellogg “The ability to manipulate objects, pickpocket unsuspecting guardsmen of their keys or change purses, lean around corners, knock out foes from behind, move bodies, overhear conversations and eat hearty portions of deer meat (yum!) make Thief's world more immersive than any other game I've ever played.”
Soapbox Review
https://web.archive.org/web/19990424...12_13_98.shtml
Sharky Extreme:
https://web.archive.org/web/19991014...ps98_a/i.shtml
https://web.archive.org/web/19991001...glass_thief_r/
PC Games
https://web.archive.org/web/19991004...ion_thief.html
Classy Glasses – VR - Yes, an actual review using Virtual Reality Glasses in 1999
https://web.archive.org/web/19991001.../wvr_thief.htm
Voodoo Extreme
https://web.archive.org/web/20000817...reviews/thief/
rpg.net
https://web.archive.org/web/20000818.../rev_1372.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20000818.../rev_1359.html
GA-Source Review
https://web.archive.org/web/19991104...e+Dark+Project
GameFirst Review
https://web.archive.org/web/19990422...hief/thief.htm
Games Overdose Review
https://web.archive.org/web/19991103...dv/Thief.shtml
Game Post Review
https://web.archive.org/web/19990429...ews/thief.html
Gamer Grand Central Reviews
https://web.archive.org/web/19990420...et.com/t24.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/19990420...t.com/t24a.htm
Gibbed Review
https://web.archive.org/web/19990922...mes/thief.html
Unnamed Gaming Review
https://web.archive.org/web/20000604...om/thief.shtml
3DBytes Review
https://web.archive.org/web/19991002.../thiefprev.htm
Game Informer Review - Provided by Reddit User: TC_Support
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Last edited by Iceblade; 16th May 2025 at 23:13.
^picture above as soon as i saw it i knew it was cragscleft prison level but someone must have took a agro skeleton from lower arera and ran it up there :P
that is the room with switch to open a gate to get to factory
Actually there are no haunts on that level. The first one, will be in the next (Bohehoard) level.
Probably that screen is from some of the pre-release builds.
"His fence Cutter"
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Early Thief Fan Sites
Thief: the Dark Files by Chuckles:
http://www.thief-thecircle.com/guides/darkfiles/
A Day in the Life of …:
http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanwo.../netscape.html
Rest of the currently available fanworks:
http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/novels.asp
http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/tales/
http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/poetry/
http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/art/
http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/movies/
http://www.thief-thecircle.com/media/music/
Shifting Double Thief Short By Tra’Hari Vandaette
https://web.archive.org/web/20010424...net/~be/thief/
Jyre’s Abode
https://web.archive.org/web/19991110...eeserve.co.uk/
Unreal Conversion of Bafford’s Manor
https://web.archive.org/web/20010419...al/bafford.htm
Game’s Domain Walkthrough
https://web.archive.org/web/19990421...new/index.html
Same FAQ posted at GameFAQs: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/715...ject/faqs/2443
Thief The Dark Site
https://web.archive.org/web/20001005...ex.html#onload
Ginna’s Domain
https://web.archive.org/web/19991216...758/index.html
Thief: The Site Maker
https://web.archive.org/web/20000619...sitemaker.com/
Beseen Thief Fan Forum
https://web.archive.org/web/19991129...droom/t/17043/
Brian Smith Walkthrough
https://web.archive.org/web/20000815...rojectwalk.htm
Lytha’s Website
https://web.archive.org/web/19991128...p://lytha.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20000517...vey/index.html
German Dark Project Fan Site
https://web.archive.org/web/19991127....purespace.de/
TAS: The Master Assassin Fansite
https://web.archive.org/web/20000511...d66/index.html
https://web.archive.org/web/19990830...66/index2.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20011031...k:80/main.html
Trimfect’s Thief Project Website:
https://web.archive.org/web/19990819...ollming/thief/
https://web.archive.org/web/20010429...nor.com/thief/
Sarah’s Thief Site
https://web.archive.org/web/20000118...intropage.html
Planet Thief
https://web.archive.org/web/20000612...irtualave.net/
Thief Fan Fiction Library
https://web.archive.org/web/20100414...mar/thief-fan/
German Thief Site
https://web.archive.org/web/20030324...www.thief2.de/
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Old Thief Reviews Part 2
Firing Squad Review:
https://web.archive.org/web/19991018...m/games/thief/
https://web.archive.org/web/19991018...hief/page2.asp
https://web.archive.org/web/19991018...hief/page3.asp
https://web.archive.org/web/19990821...hief/page4.asp
https://web.archive.org/web/19991204...hief/page5.asp
Note: pages 6, 7, report and Final Verdict are corrupted with an auto-advertisement script that makes pages hard to read. Will need to use printscreen to view pages.
https://web.archive.org/web/19991204...hief/page6.asp
https://web.archive.org/web/20000407...hief/page7.asp
https://web.archive.org/web/20000407...ief/report.asp
https://web.archive.org/web/20000407...ef/verdict.asp
Computer Games Magazine (CDMag.com):
Thief Gold Review: Thief Gold Review
Adrenaline Vault’s Previews of TDP:
https://web.archive.org/web/19990428...es/e3emil3.asp
http://www.avault.com/featured/the_d...ject/index.asp
PlayNOW! Game Reviews:
https://web.archive.org/web/20000125.../Review281.asp
The Vault Network (later: IGN Vault) Review
https://web.archive.org/web/20000815...ws/thief.shtml
CGW’s Premier Awards 1999
https://web.archive.org/web/19990508...98/page3.html/
Game Stats Review
https://web.archive.org/web/20000109...ct/default.htm
Salon 21 Review
https://web.archive.org/web/19990902.../10review.html
3DNow! Review
https://web.archive.org/web/19991106...iews/thief.htm
PC Zone Fantasy Action Games SuperTest
https://archive.org/details/PC_Zone_.../n107/mode/2up
SIRON Foot’s Review (Hint, Text is whte)
https://web.archive.org/web/20051031...hief/thief.htm
Thief 1 Postmortem [lead Programmer Tom Leonard] (Gamasutra / Game Developer Magazine)
https://web.archive.org/web/19991013...9/thief_01.htm
3D Game Comparison by Eep (still functioning website)
http://www.tnlc.com/eep/compare/
http://www.tnlc.com/eep/compare/table.html
Last edited by Iceblade; 5th May 2025 at 17:19.
Found an interesting little preview of the Thief The Dark Project published by the CD Magazine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030418...f_preview.html
There are photos that survived the Archive.org'ing process and an interesting little slice of preview fiction.
PS: As you can see in the aforementioned link, Computer Games Magazine (CDMag.com) was a big magazine that kept up with many major games - very regular news. As a result, there are many articles about Thief from those magazine releases stored in the Way-Back Machine.Garrett drew back his bow, and with a soft "twang" the water arrow was away. It snuffed the torch in the alcove ahead, giving him a pool of shadow to creep through. Between the pillars he could see down to the floor of the factory. The Hammerite worker had his back turned, but he was too far away for a sure shot. Still, everything was going according to plan, when, "Clang!" his foot came down on a metal grate rather than solid stone.
"Eh? Who goes there!? Show yourself!" the Hammerite cried, looking this way and that to find the source of the sound.
Silently, Garrett drew back into the shadows and waited, his heart pounding. After a few moments, when his searching proved fruitless, the Hammerite went back to work.
"Must be my imagination playing tricks on me," Garrett heard him mumble.
Shot Seven Garrett drew a moss bomb from his pack, and tossed it onto the grate. It blossomed into a footstep-quieting carpet of moss, allowing him to cross the grate silently. Now the Hammerite was almost directly below him—an easy shot. This arrow was significantly more substantial than the water variety, and it buried itself between the shoulder blades of the Hammerite. He cried out in pain but did not die, stumbling towards the bronze alarm gong. One note from that and the area would be thick with guards. Garrett dropped to the floor, drew his short sword and finished the job. The Hammerite was dead.
The room was quiet. No other Hammerites were near. Garrett stepped up to the machine and pulled a lever, closing the mold. Another lever caused a vat of molten iron to tilt, filling the mold with liquid metal. Garrett looked down at the temperature gauge on the machine, and when the metal had cooled sufficiently, he yanked the first lever again and out dropped a newly minted hammer, symbol of the Hammerites. Garrett hefted it and proceeded with the mission at hand.…
Last edited by Iceblade; 5th May 2025 at 16:21.
Wow this one is interesting. The French Thief Website from the early 2000s produced maps of the Thief Levels with their game guides:
Game Guide
Extra Resources
Bafford's Map
Click on Extra Resources link above, then the desired mission under Aides, then Plans des...
I bet Greg LoPiccolo did not anticipate people would still go nuts with DromEd 27 years later.When asked whether a level editor would be provided, there was a bit of hemming and hawing. Best guess is that they'll "burn it onto the CD and provide it unsupported." Clearly, the desire to get it into the hands of enthusiasts is there for LoPiccolo. "There's such a depth of expression in areas that other engines haven't touched. Graphically, you know, we're not doing anything that people haven't seen before, really," he says modestly. "But in terms of a lot of the other interactions, how easy it is to do really deep sophisticated things just with the editor, we'd love to see people go nuts with it."![]()
89 magazine articles about TDP and Gold from my collection: https://archive.org/details/thief-se..._20220925_1705
Thanks Taffer1989!
I added the link to the collection to the top post.