CoSaS - Gathering at the Inn Released - 11.2.2003

[bdkl]

I just got home from my night shift and all my tired brain took in was CoSaS ... released .....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh crap

[Garrett's Shadow]

looks like my fun with this one is at an end.

as soon as i try to give the fire wand to Skarz - CTD!!!!

AHA AHA AHA!


EmperorSteele - that crash that both Goldwolf and I were having - NOTHING to do with anything else running - we were trying to have Skarz alter the wand
without also giving him the pick he had to make it look like!
no wonder it crashed! we were creating an impossible logic conflict!

so what was up with that red door across the short outside bridge area (near window to hallway with fire mage room) - was there a key for it???

REALLY sweet FM btw - cool cutscene and aweome vids at beginning and end!

[jiansonz]

um, are the 2 water arrows in the "in case of fire" box at the side of the bar supposed to be non frobable?

They are unfrobbable until you do what you would do in case of fire...

[Garrett's Shadow]

they still wouldnt highlight, the two upstairs were like that too, it sometimes does and sometimes does'nt highlight.

[SlyFoxx]

It's been years since this thread was on page one. I was feeling nostalgic so I fired this classic FM up today. It must five years since I last visited The Grieving Burrick. Keeping my weapons holstered I gracefully made my way through the familiar corridors and back passages ticking off objectives one by one. The pickles were even better than I remembered. Upon completion of my tasks I ventured back into the basement and cut the power just to mess with Pomok. "Stupid piece of crap!" I made the poor man make three trips to the generator room just for fun.

This map just goes to show how much game-play and story you can cram into a small space. I feel proud to now be a member of Nightfall's elite group.

I have to go now. Lord Raputo has designs on The Ivory Rose. I mustn't disappoint Master Nightfall.

[Another_Taffer]

Did anyone ever noticed that the homeless person says "Oh Dankeschön" (German "Oh Thank You") after receiving the free meal coupon? Why does this line happen to be in German?

Or are my ears playing tricks on me?

[intruder]

It could be a sound that was shipped with Thief 2 as a part of a conversation.

[gnartsch]

Sounds to me rather like "Oh... thank you, Sir"

[Peanuckle]

Don't mind me, just bringing this back from the grave.

You know, I've finished Mission X, but I never finished this one before because I couldn't get around the omniscient guards. Finally did it, though. This mission really kept well over the years.

My question is what EXACTLY do you do with the Special Shake? I get that it's used to drug Lord Pearsall, but I can't figure out how. Also, do the other options disappear once you've chosen one method? I used the rat poison, and then I couldn't frob the baby burrick to make the smelly hanky.

[Samantha1]

Hello, I got a question about the secrets in "gathering at the inn": Are there 3 or 6 secrets? According to the stats screen I found 3 of 6 secrets, so I checked the lootlist cause I wanted to know what I missed there, but the lootlist only shows 3 secrets aswell. So is it 3 or 6?

[fortuni]

There are only 3 secrets, the other so called secrets are duplicate links to the original secrets, will get it fixed.

[Samantha1]

Okay, thank you very much!!

[fortuni]

dml to fix end game stats, now shows 3 secrets not 6, plus a few other minor fixes, courtesy Glypher.

DML1
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[Wind_Falcon]

Hello, I'm trying to play the FM and I get this error message right after clicking Continue on the initial objectives screen after the intro movie followed by a crash to desktop. My setup is Thief II GOG + T2Fix 1.27e + AngelLoader 1.7.1. These are my mods, though I've tried with all of them ticked/unticked - doesn't make any difference.
This is the only FM that I've encountered this or any similar errors/crashes in nearly ~30 FMs that I've played in recent months. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

[R Soul]

The error is related to the script modules (.osm files). Unfortunately some (or all) of the included files were made specifically for this FM, and there are no updates or source code available. Unless someone can contact Totality, whom I think was the author.

[Wind_Falcon]

The error is related to the script modules (.osm files). Unfortunately some (or all) of the included files were made specifically for this FM, and there are no updates or source code available. Unless someone can contact Totality, whom I think was the author.

Thanks for replying.
Though I find it kind of strange, considering in the thread it seems people were playing the mission with no problems as recently as 2021.
It would be quite unfortunate if this FM is lost to time.

[fortuni]

Loads and plays with me no problem when using FMsel directly, so could be worth trying a different FM loader, if that doesn't work have you tried downloading a new zip or tried a clean T2 install?

[Wind_Falcon]

OK, I tried reinstalling Thief 2 and tried the mission before applying T2Fix, and got in-game with no error on a clean GOG Thief 2 install + my old AngelLoader set-up. After applying T2Fix 1.27e with all mods ticked in the installer - the error is back. So something in T2Fix is causing the issue.

[fortuni]

I doubt if it's T2Fix itself causing the problem, more likely one of the mods within T2Fix. I have T2Fix installed but only have T2FMDML package installed along with it, so might be one of the other mods.

Question: What is NewT2SFX, this mod is not in my T2Fix mod installer options, all the others I recognise and know to be safe so my immediate thought is this maybe the cause of your issue.

PS. I've sent a PM to Jax to look into this.

[Wind_Falcon]

I think NewT2SFX = https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119405
But like I said initially, even with all mods disabled I still get the error message.

[fortuni]

Guessed it might be the Sound Effects mod as that is how it's named when installing 2Fix via FMsel directly, but there used to be a particle effects file called SFX so thought it maybe that.

[baeuchlein]

This is not the first time crashes are reported with this mission. Check this thread for more. It even started before NewDark. The thread also includes some of my own babblings concerning this problem, near the end. Currently, the mission does not want to fail for me in Windows 10 or some versions of Linux. Don't ask me why. However, the scripts indeed look like the source of most of these problems.

[Wind_Falcon]

After a dozen or so clean re-installations of Thief 2 and trying different combinations in T2Fix, I've narrowed down the cause of the issue - it's the Thief 2 Multiplayer optional component that's the culprit for the crash. You can install absolutely everything else and the mission goes in-game with no problem, but installing just the MP and nothing else - the FM crashes.

[baeuchlein]

After a dozen or so clean re-installations of Thief 2 and trying different combinations in T2Fix, I've narrowed down the cause of the issue - it's the Thief 2 Multiplayer optional component that's the culprit for the crash. You can install absolutely everything else and the mission goes in-game with no problem, but installing just the MP and nothing else - the FM crashes.

The Multiplayer component has been causing problems with other missions in the past. It used some different scripts for the "standard game" than the usual single-player game setup. Whether these issues were partially taken care of in the latest T2Fix release (v1.27e) I do not know, the changelog's only entry on this is from v1.27b. AFAIK, in one of the latest T2Fix releases the default selection for Multiplayer is "do not install".

On the other hand, the problems I had with "Gathering at the Inn" in autumn of last year all happened without the Multiplayer component installed. I had no such problems with "CoSaS: Mission X", which uses the same custom script modules. Most likely, "GatI" does use the custom scripts in a way "Mission X" does not, and therefore, issues with "GatI" come up sometimes. Other influences on the script-related problems might come from the game version used as well as the operating system. And as R Soul mentioned, the chances of someone being able to fix the scipt-related problems in "GatI" are rather small.

[Darkness_Falls]

dml to fix end game stats, now shows 3 secrets not 6, plus a few other minor fixes, courtesy Glypher.

DML1
//T2 FM: Gathering at the Inn (CoSaS 1) by Team CoSaS / Fixes: miss22.mis.dml

Where does that code go, exactly? I looked through all the files and folders and there's nothing titled, "miss22.mis.dml".

Are we to make a brand new file with that code and save it as "miss22.mis.dml"? If so, where do we save it to?

I see the installation has a "miss22.mis" file, but it doesn't have ".dml" extension. And when opening it in Notepad, it's all gibberish characters, so doesn't seem like I should update this file.