Whoah guys, I'm pretty sure he meant it to mean a leader!Originally Posted by Always_Black
So what's the current state of your project? Got a name yet? Care to let us in on at least the basic premise?Maybe I should try it too... strange to think that I'm making a Deus Ex mod myself and the only one I've actually played so far is Cassandra...
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Cogito,ergo,sum. Cogito.
Wherever you go,there you are!
I was trying out some CMS systems yesterday, and I'm getting started with making the website. So more will be revealed soon. No final name yet, but the codename is Mansion. The mod will be more of an adventure game with practically no action.So what's the current state of your project? Got a name yet? Care to let us in on at least the basic premise?
That sounds like a great idea. I actually thought of dropping my Deus Ex mod and do something with the Source engine, but then I took an initial look at the SDK and as I noticed there wasn't yet a lot of developer/community support (and I didn't have Visual Studio .NET), I decided to start working on the DX mod again and finish it. After that (if it's going to happen) I'll probably take a look at Source again, or maybe UT2004 or something.
Well, I can tell you right now that if there's not much action but mostly exploring and\or puzzle solving (the two main aspects of an "adventure" game), you will still have a lot of people enjoy it (Myst did'nt exactly bomb ya know!), BUT- most of the Deus Ex crowd will probably not get much from it,
but only because the DX context is that of action; aggressive response
to conflict.
I'll give it a go of course- it's nice to play a game that does'nt require a high
body count, from time to time.
OH,one last thing-you'd best concentrate on story.That's just about the most important thing in that genre.(that's partly why Myst did so well-
intrigue!(of course it's gorgeous graphics did'nt hurt none either!))
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Cogito,ergo,sum. Cogito.
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A lot of adventure game players also have Deus Ex. To be honest I've never intended the 'target group' for this game to be the Deus Ex community particularly, but rather the adventure game community. I'm not expecting a whole lot of popularity for this mod, because of the limited target audience...
And of course I'm focusing on the story. Actually it's mostly a remake of a freeware 2D game with a great story, but I'll be expanding it.
Yeah, I'm just tinkering with it at the moment to get a feel for whats possible, and even compared to DX modding, there are some serious user-friendliness deficiencies in the tools. Those guys could learn a lot from Unreal SDKs's.
I've seen this used enough to know that it has to do with game editing, but since I am pretty new to this ding-dong machine called the computer could
someone please tell me what SDK stands for?
An SDK is a software development kit, and its basically the tools that you need to make a mod for a game, so in the case of DX, it comprises the map editor, some source code, the conversation editor, model converters etc.I've seen this used enough to know that it has to do with game editing, but since I am pretty new to this ding-dong machine called the computer could
someone please tell me what SDK stands for?
If game developers dont release an SDK, its pretty much impossible to make any meaningful mods for it (not always, it depends how the game is made really).
But sometimes some very clever people find out the structure of the game files and create their own tools. The GTA games for example. GTA1 had the most mods in the series probably, it was also a much simpler game.
I don't know how they do it though, never been interested in trying to do stuff like that (hacking into binary files and trying to figure them out).
Yeah, very true. Although I think as games have gotten more complicated, its increasingly harder to make your own tools to mod them.
Thanx, now I know! You're an
It really was the pits to have this *wonderful* leadup to what must be the biggest anticlimax sincehas there ever BEEN a bigger anticlimax?
One of the developers said in another thread that
In other words, not bloody likelyAnyway, to this rambling being, The Cassandra Project was to game mods what fully independent remote control robots are to GCSE design projects.
I just wish you'd put that into the original game. Instead of all that "save for next time" and "we are carving out your future thoughtspace"Maybe a notice on your website at the begining of 2004?
That would have been best but water under the bridge. Gotta move on now.
Something in the back of my mind always figured that the Project was gonna die or that id be 70 by the time the next installment came.
I wonder. If the team had been less ambitious (with the new lockpick and mulitool bypassing systems for example) could the first episode have been done in a year with others to follow?
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If we knew all that we know now about modding DX, I think we could have done the first episode in a year. Maybe less.
(Certainly if we kept it to the original design doc instead of being distracted constantly. And always being over-optimistic on what DX could stand without breaking)
But it's called a learning curve for a reason.
KG
It should be noted that it's not actually *these* things which caused any significant delays. They were relatively small changes.
Delays were mainly based around DX *not working properly*. Like - say - designing a level to discover that it would no longer support the pathfinding due to over-complication. Or, as 58 will testify, weapons importing.
KG
ARGHHHHH, the triangles, they BUUUUURRRRRRNNNNNNNN.
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