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Thread: Rosaries Are Red (Thief Novice Contest)

  1. #1
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Chula Vista, CA

    Rosaries Are Red (Thief Novice Contest)

    If at first the explosive machine doesn't work, keep trying. I had to place the two required items about five times before the machine finally worked. It seems that the items must fall in just the right spot. Try dropping them instead of throwing them.

    Edit: Hmmm........the zombie in the lobby can't be destroyed with flash bombs - just temporarily blinds him like other AI.
    Last edited by nchw68; 5th Sep 2005 at 16:25.

  2. #2
    Vertical Contest Winner 2009
    Registered: Sep 2002
    Location: The Great White North
    zombie bug is new to me, didn't try to flash him, i also had machine trouble, but
    spoiler:
    i had saved my two fire arrows and blasted the door with those.
    Last edited by Ottoj55; 5th Sep 2005 at 16:36.

  3. #3
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Chula Vista, CA
    A fire arrow does work on the lobby zombie, just as it should.

  4. #4
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2003
    Location: some things never change
    Nice mission, but I seem to have some problems. I'm playing on expert.
    First: the objectives don't show, so I don't know, what to do.
    Second: the missions ends in the public works station after reading the message there. I haven't been to the vault, haven't used the machine and haven't activated the elevator, so I guess it shouldn't end there?

    edit: ignoring the message made it possible to go on with the mission but after blowing open the first door the mission didn't end, and the second door isn't frobable. Should it end there?

    But I had much fun playing this mission!
    Last edited by snowcap21; 7th Sep 2005 at 06:25.

  5. #5
    Desperately Dodgy Moderator
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: Bohn Museum
    I couldn't figure out how to
    spoiler:
    get in the office where the bantam node was without using a fire arrow... not pickable and I never found a key...

  6. #6
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2003
    Location: some things never change
    Yandros: I used my sword, but later I found the key in the sewers, close to the skeleton arm. Poor Maurice, I guess.

  7. #7
    Desperately Dodgy Moderator
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: Bohn Museum
    Hmmm... I thought I had tried bashing it open... guess not.

  8. #8
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: USA
    I'm having the same problem with the objectives as well. I'm playing on expert.

    Also I can't find
    spoiler:
    the code to the combination lock.

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2003
    Location: some things never change
    john9818a: for the code check the 4 statues. Each one has a number, the first is indicated by a "[", last by a "]"

  10. #10
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: USA
    Thanks SnowCap21

    The objective problem -
    spoiler:
    there are four goal_max_diff which prevents any objective from being seen.


    Anyway I finished this one I think. I still had fun playing this FM.

  11. #11
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    Couple of dml's courtesy Unna. Fixes missing loot, mantling out of map, being able to frob loot through banner.

    Edit: The objective do not show on hard and expert, but you can d/l a fixed version at Darkfate here.

    Code:
    DML1//rosary.gam.dml
    
    +ObjProp -6129 "RenderType"        
    {
     "" Not Rendered
    }
    +metaprop -6129 -2420

    Code:
    DML1// Rosaries are Red: Fixes missing loot and frobbing gem through banner//miss20.mis.dml
    
    +StimSource 52 "PingStim"
    {
     Intensity 5
    
     Propagator "Radius"
     {
     Life
     {
     "Flags" "[None]"
     "Period" 5000
     "Max Firings" 1
     "Intensity Slope" 0.00
     }
    
     Shape
     {
     "Radius" 10.00
     "Flags" "[None]"
     "Dispersion" "Linear"
     }
     }
    }
    
    
    +Receptron 52 "PingStim"
    {
     Min 3
     Max 7
    
     Target -6129
     Agent 0
    
     Effect "create_obj"
     {
     "Position" -20.58, -9.32, 15.1
     "Heading" 0.00
     "Pitch" 0.00
     "Bank" 0.00
     }
    }
    //loot
    +ObjProp 444 "BlockFrob"          
    {
       "" true
    }
    +ObjProp 446 "BlockFrob"          
    {
       "" true
    }
    -ObjProp 184 "PhysType"
    +ObjProp 184 "PhysType"
    {
    "Type" None
    "# Submodels" 0
    }
    -ObjProp 184 "PhysControl"
    +ObjProp 184 "Position"
    {
    "Location" -20.97, -79.45, 30.518
    "Heading" 0
    "Pitch" 0
    "Bank" 0  
     }
    
    -ObjProp 198 "PhysType"
    +ObjProp 198 "PhysType"
    {
    "Type" None
    "# Submodels" 0
    }
    -ObjProp 198 "PhysControl"
    +ObjProp 198 "Position"
    {
    "Location" -21.63, -79.45, 30.518
    "Heading" 0
    "Pitch" 0
    "Bank" 0  
     }
    -ObjProp 199 "PhysType"
    +ObjProp 199 "PhysType"
    {
    "Type" None
    "# Submodels" 0
    }
    -ObjProp 199 "PhysControl"
    +ObjProp 199 "Position"
    {
    "Location" -21.56, -79.73, 30.518
    "Heading" 0
    "Pitch" 0
    "Bank" 0  
     }
    +StimSource 69 "PingStim"
    {
     Intensity 5
    
     Propagator "Radius"
     {
     Life
     {
     "Flags" "[None]"
     "Period" 5000
     "Max Firings" 1
     "Intensity Slope" 0.00
     }
    
     Shape
     {
     "Radius" 10.00
     "Flags" "[None]"
     "Dispersion" "Linear"
     }
     }
    }
    
    
    +Receptron 69 "PingStim"
    {
     Min 3
     Max 7
    
     Target -6129
     Agent 0
    
     Effect "create_obj"
     {
     "Position" -20.64, -10.53, 6.1
     "Heading" 0.00
     "Pitch" 0.00
     "Bank" 42ba
     }
    }
    Last edited by fortuni; 29th Oct 2021 at 07:26.

  12. #12
    Member
    Registered: Sep 1999
    Location: Texas
    Thank you fortuni. Wasn't there a google share with all fixes?

  13. #13
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    Your thinking of Jax64 FMdml package that was posted in the original dev thread about a package put together by Voodoo. Since them Jax, Unna and myself have fixed another 40/45 missions.

    When we finish all the 2005 T2 missions, hopefully within a few weeks, Jax's will be including FMdml in T2Fix so there shouldn't ever be the need to manually install dml's again for nearly 400 missions (2000-2005), but still we're posting the dml's in their respective threads as good practice, as well as giving people the chance to replay missions as soon as they are fixed, after all the 2006 fixed mission probably won't be ready till early next year and 2007 next summer.
    Last edited by fortuni; 20th Jun 2019 at 22:02.

  14. #14
    Member
    Registered: Sep 1999
    Location: Texas
    Very appreciative of your work. I have a list of older missions I've not played yet and this is great to know when I do they may have a fix. Now, do I just check that thread then when it comes time to check back? Or is it always going to be a T2Fix distro?

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    Check the relevant entries in the Brief Summaries, I’ve placed a note at the bottom of each entry with details of any fix and a link to the dml.
    Last edited by fortuni; 20th Jun 2019 at 22:00.

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: Sep 1999
    Location: Texas
    Quote Originally Posted by fortuni View Post
    Check the relevant entries in the Brief Summaries, I’ve placed a note at the bottom of each entry with details of any fix and a link to the dml.
    OH nice! Thanks again!

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2011
    i cannot find the rosary in vault 8, because i cannot understand whta means vault

  18. #18
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2011
    i need your help please. where can i find the bulb for the machine ?

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2005
    Location: BC, Canada
    Quote Originally Posted by radogoal View Post
    i need your help please. where can i find the bulb for the machine ?
    I think it was down the elevator in the vault?

    Time Taken: 32min
    Loot: 3693/3693

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